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@IAMAI-Web20: Challenges, Evolution, Marketing And Bean Bags

By Nikhil Pahwa - Sun 24 Jun 2007 05:30 AM PST

“We’re doing it in a conference 2.0 format – we’re sitting on bean bags.” And with this, began the IAMAI conference on Web 2.0.

As such there was very little said that was new: MIH India CEO Ashish Kashyap, former Country Head for Google in India disclosed that there are around 6.5 million Orkut users from India. He defended ibibo by saying that it is disruptive, and that they’re tapping the emotional need by helping people earn by referring jobs, blogging and connecting buyers and sellers. This was countered by Vivek Pahwa, Founder of Desimartini.com, who said that it’s interesting to see people contributing on social networking sites, and blogging, without any incentive. He laid emphasis on experimentation as a means to acquiring and retaining users, and the difficulty of reaching critical mass. Navin Mittal, business head of Fropper said that they tried to de-emphasize English with Easyblogs…strangely, without multilingual content. He evaded my question on what made them change Froppers mandate from a dating site to a social networking site, saying that it was created as a community site, and remains that. Rehan Yar Khan of Yo4Ya.com put things into perspective – it’s the marketing, silly – you can have the nicest GUI, but it’s so damn expensive to make consumers aware of the product. User-get-user customer is one mode of customer acquisition, and they’re creating an instant messenger to facilitate that. What’s different about user generated content today is the quantity. Challenges that entrepreneurs face: getting the right people, scalability, acquiring users, creating solutions for retaining users and reaching critical mass, innovation, building a killer application.

The lowpoint of the session, and indeed the conference, was an unwarranted marketing pitch by Ravi Datanwala, Online Business Strategy Manager for conference sponsor Microsoft, talking about how great MS products are for building Web 2.0 properties…though Navin Mittal did lighten things up by recommending LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP), much to everyone’s amusement.

Avnish Bajaj of Matrix Partners, moderating the discussion summed it up – everyone knows the ingredients of building a web 2.0 property – but I doubt if anyone knows the recipe. It’s potentially just the evolution of internet, from the early days to mass adoption. Web 2.0 is the other way round – now users push the business model. The cost of building an internet business is now down by a factor of 3 to 4, with open source technology, advent of search marketing and viral nature of Web 2.0.

Disclaimer: I’m related to Vivek Pahwa, Founder of Desimartini.com

Posted in: Conferences, Social Media



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3 Responses:
  • From Roy Sun 24 Jun 2007 11:03 AM

    Nice entry Keep the good work guys
    Am bloging about orkut also on my blog http://socialitesnet.blogspot.com and other such web 2 stuff

  • From Ram Tue 28 Aug 2007 10:34 PM

    Hi Nikhil,

    I would like to sugget that you add a section that basically lists dead beats in the web 2.0 space. I mean there are a lot of companies just faking it and possibly make a quick buck on shares/trading etc. I wonder bcas a lot of the small/big ventures are publicly traded.

    Desimartini, ibibo, fropper, minglebox combined don’t have 100,000 real accts. No body really uses them for their social utility unlike facebook. So, shed some real insight on these ventures as sometimes it looks like just air. They do get a lot of press/hype since a lot of blogs similar to yours are widely covering these ventures.

    Sincerely,

    Ram

  • From Nikhil Wed 29 Aug 2007 12:39 AM

    Ram, we don’t cover companies without substantial resources behind them...typically listed companies, large media companies, companies with VC funding, or those with deals with large companies. Of the companies that you mention, only Desimartini doesn’t meet the above criteria, and we’ve only covered them here as a part of our conference coverage. Would also like to point out that there are many other companies in this space that we dont cover because they don’t meet the above criteria. Other blogs have their own editorial thinking, so they cover them.

    Also, I don’t see any point in creating a section just for putting down existing companies in this space...they may not have users or traction, but it’s their risk.

    Another thing: I don’t think one should be limited by having only a numbers focus. it’s also about fans and passionate users, only that advertisers and marketers are yet to make up their mind about whether they’re looking at the Internet as a medium (and hence “numbers") or a space for “creating passionate users”.

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